The transistor output Z is to high to feed a speaker or headphone. One way to overcome this is to raise the collector current. A higher current will reduce the output Z but it cost power. I want a battery powered set that will not drain the battery to quickly. A BF2040 stage will feed a 50 Ohm load with 10ma current drain. I want to try and do a little better than that. We could use an output transformer but I want to use parts available off the shelf. While winding a transformer is not extremely difficult is not beginner level. I need 1 mv to drive my earbud. This circuit works faily well.
Driving it with 25uv gives me the 1mv out.
100uv gives over 4mv. So far it looks good but what about the power drain?
1.5ma current drain at 9 volts is not bad. This could be my circuit for my new radio build.
It drives my earbud with the output set to min on my AF generator. I connected a speaker to it and could hear the tone across the room with the generator on about 5%.
My favorite hearing aid amp is very good but it requires transformers.
This one works well. I have some transformer in the parts been that work in it. If you don't have any transformers and don't care to wind any the circuit above is a good alternative.
Friday, February 22, 2019
Monday, February 18, 2019
100 mhz amp I -O and script
I set the generator to 100 uv at 75Ohms. Half the signal is being dropped in the generator.
I moved the generator and battery on screen to show the whole picture.
You can cut and paste the spice script below.
************************************
Version 4
SHEET 1 880 880
WIRE 128 80 128 64
WIRE 400 112 400 64
WIRE 32 144 -32 144
WIRE 336 160 128 160
WIRE -112 176 -128 176
WIRE -32 176 -32 144
WIRE -32 176 -48 176
WIRE 32 176 32 144
WIRE 128 176 128 160
WIRE 592 192 528 192
WIRE 624 192 592 192
WIRE 400 224 400 208
WIRE 528 224 528 192
WIRE 624 224 624 192
WIRE 80 240 32 240
WIRE 160 240 80 240
WIRE 32 256 32 240
WIRE 80 256 80 240
WIRE 160 272 160 240
WIRE 528 336 528 304
WIRE 576 336 528 336
WIRE 624 336 624 304
WIRE 624 336 576 336
WIRE 32 352 32 336
WIRE 400 352 400 304
WIRE 400 352 368 352
WIRE 416 352 400 352
WIRE 576 352 576 336
WIRE -32 384 -32 256
WIRE 80 384 80 336
WIRE 80 384 -32 384
WIRE 160 384 160 336
WIRE 160 384 80 384
WIRE 368 384 368 352
WIRE 416 384 416 352
WIRE 80 400 80 384
WIRE 368 512 368 448
WIRE 384 512 368 512
WIRE 416 512 416 464
WIRE 416 512 384 512
WIRE -656 528 -656 512
WIRE 384 560 384 512
WIRE -656 624 -656 608
WIRE -560 656 -656 656
WIRE -656 672 -656 656
WIRE -656 768 -656 752
FLAG 80 400 0
FLAG -128 176 RF
FLAG 32 352 +Vcc
FLAG 128 64 +Vcc
FLAG -656 768 0
FLAG -656 624 0
FLAG -656 512 +Vcc
FLAG 400 64 +Vcc
FLAG 384 560 0
FLAG 576 352 0
FLAG 592 192 OUT
FLAG -560 656 RF
SYMBOL npn 128 240 M270
SYMATTR InstName Q1
SYMATTR Value BFR193
SYMBOL res 64 240 R0
SYMATTR InstName R1
SYMATTR Value 820
SYMBOL cap 144 272 R0
SYMATTR InstName C1
SYMATTR Value 10n
SYMBOL res -48 160 R0
SYMATTR InstName R2
SYMATTR Value 7k2
SYMBOL cap -48 160 R90
WINDOW 0 0 32 VBottom 2
WINDOW 3 32 32 VTop 2
SYMATTR InstName C2
SYMATTR Value 10n
SYMBOL res 16 240 R0
SYMATTR InstName R3
SYMATTR Value 1k4
SYMBOL res 112 64 R0
SYMATTR InstName R4
SYMATTR Value 7k2
SYMBOL voltage -656 656 R0
WINDOW 123 24 124 Left 2
WINDOW 39 24 152 Left 2
SYMATTR Value2 AC 1
SYMATTR SpiceLine Rser=75
SYMATTR InstName V1
SYMATTR Value SINE(0 100u 100meg)
SYMBOL Misc\\battery -656 512 R0
WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0
WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 0
SYMATTR InstName V2
SYMATTR Value 9
SYMBOL npn 336 112 R0
SYMATTR InstName Q2
SYMATTR Value BFR193
SYMBOL cap 352 384 R0
SYMATTR InstName C3
SYMATTR Value 10n
SYMBOL res 400 368 R0
SYMATTR InstName R5
SYMATTR Value 17k
SYMBOL ind2 384 208 R0
SYMATTR InstName L1
SYMATTR Value 1µ
SYMATTR Type ind
SYMBOL ind2 544 320 R180
WINDOW 0 36 80 Left 2
WINDOW 3 36 40 Left 2
SYMATTR InstName L2
SYMATTR Value 10µ
SYMATTR Type ind
SYMBOL res 608 208 R0
SYMATTR InstName R6
SYMATTR Value 1k
TEXT -688 832 Left 2 !.tran 0 5u 4.5u
TEXT -680 864 Left 2 !K1 L1 L2 1
***************************************
The code is the text between the ******.
The file extension is .ASC
Blogger will not let me post .ASC files?
I moved the generator and battery on screen to show the whole picture.
You can cut and paste the spice script below.
************************************
Version 4
SHEET 1 880 880
WIRE 128 80 128 64
WIRE 400 112 400 64
WIRE 32 144 -32 144
WIRE 336 160 128 160
WIRE -112 176 -128 176
WIRE -32 176 -32 144
WIRE -32 176 -48 176
WIRE 32 176 32 144
WIRE 128 176 128 160
WIRE 592 192 528 192
WIRE 624 192 592 192
WIRE 400 224 400 208
WIRE 528 224 528 192
WIRE 624 224 624 192
WIRE 80 240 32 240
WIRE 160 240 80 240
WIRE 32 256 32 240
WIRE 80 256 80 240
WIRE 160 272 160 240
WIRE 528 336 528 304
WIRE 576 336 528 336
WIRE 624 336 624 304
WIRE 624 336 576 336
WIRE 32 352 32 336
WIRE 400 352 400 304
WIRE 400 352 368 352
WIRE 416 352 400 352
WIRE 576 352 576 336
WIRE -32 384 -32 256
WIRE 80 384 80 336
WIRE 80 384 -32 384
WIRE 160 384 160 336
WIRE 160 384 80 384
WIRE 368 384 368 352
WIRE 416 384 416 352
WIRE 80 400 80 384
WIRE 368 512 368 448
WIRE 384 512 368 512
WIRE 416 512 416 464
WIRE 416 512 384 512
WIRE -656 528 -656 512
WIRE 384 560 384 512
WIRE -656 624 -656 608
WIRE -560 656 -656 656
WIRE -656 672 -656 656
WIRE -656 768 -656 752
FLAG 80 400 0
FLAG -128 176 RF
FLAG 32 352 +Vcc
FLAG 128 64 +Vcc
FLAG -656 768 0
FLAG -656 624 0
FLAG -656 512 +Vcc
FLAG 400 64 +Vcc
FLAG 384 560 0
FLAG 576 352 0
FLAG 592 192 OUT
FLAG -560 656 RF
SYMBOL npn 128 240 M270
SYMATTR InstName Q1
SYMATTR Value BFR193
SYMBOL res 64 240 R0
SYMATTR InstName R1
SYMATTR Value 820
SYMBOL cap 144 272 R0
SYMATTR InstName C1
SYMATTR Value 10n
SYMBOL res -48 160 R0
SYMATTR InstName R2
SYMATTR Value 7k2
SYMBOL cap -48 160 R90
WINDOW 0 0 32 VBottom 2
WINDOW 3 32 32 VTop 2
SYMATTR InstName C2
SYMATTR Value 10n
SYMBOL res 16 240 R0
SYMATTR InstName R3
SYMATTR Value 1k4
SYMBOL res 112 64 R0
SYMATTR InstName R4
SYMATTR Value 7k2
SYMBOL voltage -656 656 R0
WINDOW 123 24 124 Left 2
WINDOW 39 24 152 Left 2
SYMATTR Value2 AC 1
SYMATTR SpiceLine Rser=75
SYMATTR InstName V1
SYMATTR Value SINE(0 100u 100meg)
SYMBOL Misc\\battery -656 512 R0
WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0
WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 0
SYMATTR InstName V2
SYMATTR Value 9
SYMBOL npn 336 112 R0
SYMATTR InstName Q2
SYMATTR Value BFR193
SYMBOL cap 352 384 R0
SYMATTR InstName C3
SYMATTR Value 10n
SYMBOL res 400 368 R0
SYMATTR InstName R5
SYMATTR Value 17k
SYMBOL ind2 384 208 R0
SYMATTR InstName L1
SYMATTR Value 1µ
SYMATTR Type ind
SYMBOL ind2 544 320 R180
WINDOW 0 36 80 Left 2
WINDOW 3 36 40 Left 2
SYMATTR InstName L2
SYMATTR Value 10µ
SYMATTR Type ind
SYMBOL res 608 208 R0
SYMATTR InstName R6
SYMATTR Value 1k
TEXT -688 832 Left 2 !.tran 0 5u 4.5u
TEXT -680 864 Left 2 !K1 L1 L2 1
***************************************
The code is the text between the ******.
The file extension is .ASC
Blogger will not let me post .ASC files?
Sunday, February 17, 2019
100 MHz amp - comparing sim to calculated
This is the circuit
Ic(Q2)
Vbe
I bias
V emitter
Q1 collector current
Input and output
Time base adjusted to show waveform
The math and the model follow each other fairly well. The math was using ß = 93. I think my model uses ß = 125. I expected a little variation because of this.
I assumed a 1k load and used the 4T:14T FT37-61 transformer. The transformer could be adjusted for the desired Zout.
Ic(Q2)
Vbe
V emitter
Q1 collector current
Input and output
Time base adjusted to show waveform
The math and the model follow each other fairly well. The math was using ß = 93. I think my model uses ß = 125. I expected a little variation because of this.
I assumed a 1k load and used the 4T:14T FT37-61 transformer. The transformer could be adjusted for the desired Zout.
complete receiver - less tuner
Edit: I will have to do some testing but the build doesn't function. The AF is great but the RF amp failed. I may have a bad hookup. It will require some testing.I injected a signal into the detector and it looks good.
EDIT 1: I had R5 connected to +Vcc. Connecting it to -Vcc should fix the problem. I'll try that next shop time.
EDIT 2: I moved R5 from +Vcc to -Vcc and it was like flipping a switch. Looking good now it just needs a tuner. That will be my project for next week.
EDIT 1: I had R5 connected to +Vcc. Connecting it to -Vcc should fix the problem. I'll try that next shop time.
EDIT 2: I moved R5 from +Vcc to -Vcc and it was like flipping a switch. Looking good now it just needs a tuner. That will be my project for next week.
Saturday, February 16, 2019
The frontend - RF amp and detector
I used the P416 Germanium transistor for the Rf amp.
Looks good now to add a detector.
The green is the generator output.
The blue is the detector output.
It has 30 uv pk-pk input and 150 uv pk-pk output.
Here is the circuit.
Time for a build.
Looks good now to add a detector.
The green is the generator output.
The blue is the detector output.
It has 30 uv pk-pk input and 150 uv pk-pk output.
Here is the circuit.
Time for a build.
Transistor datasheets Russian Germanium
I checked the datasheets to make sure I was right in my last post. The transistors I've been (MP40) using are rated 1MHz. The P416 is rated 40 MHz. They said a TRF with 1 RF and 2 AF stages was as good as a regenerative with 2 AF stages. Maybe a P416 RF stage is in order?
How many stages should a receiver have?
I posted a link to the book in April 2017.
Russian Data Sheets
If you can't read them here you can follow the link and download the book.
How many stages should a receiver have?
I posted a link to the book in April 2017.
Russian Data Sheets
If you can't read them here you can follow the link and download the book.
Bypass the power supply to prevent cross feed
Using the old Germanium transistors provide some RF immunity. They have 1 MHz high frequency limit. This might be another reason to build a TRF receiver. A crystal set can perform quite well. With an AF amp even more so. I think this is part of the advantage the old timers had. The limits of their components were in their favor. In the final build I may add an RF amp which will help with sensitivity AND boost noise which could have been below the detector threshold. It is give and take. We get the bad with the good. Then a band pass filter could be used to help reduce out of band noise.
Anyway I like the little amp and it could be used in my next build. I don't have any variable capacitors yet. Peebles Originals has some in route. When they arrive I will add the front end and see how it works out.
Anyway this is the final schematic for the AF amp. I added some bypass caps (in the red box).
For the input to reference AC ground I need to bypass the battery. Without the bypass the signal is passing through the battery to ground. This could produce cross feed and cause instability.
Anyway I like the little amp and it could be used in my next build. I don't have any variable capacitors yet. Peebles Originals has some in route. When they arrive I will add the front end and see how it works out.
Anyway this is the final schematic for the AF amp. I added some bypass caps (in the red box).
For the input to reference AC ground I need to bypass the battery. Without the bypass the signal is passing through the battery to ground. This could produce cross feed and cause instability.
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